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    Obama gives Congress 70% Waiver on Grassley Amendment of Obama Care

    ladies & Gentlemen,
    This week when Congress finally understood they had to abide by the exact same laws that the rest of the people in the USA must live under, (Grassley) Amendment was to assure that Congress lived under the Obama Care law. Congressmen and their aids went ballistic, complaining they could not afford Obama Care, Obama steps in and orders Budget office to give Congress a 70% waiver and supply 70% of the required monies for each Congressman and his aids. The Grassley Amendment was to assure Congress would live under the same Obama Care laws, as the rest of the USA. Obama is setting up a true ruling class, it's time America wake up to this Communism that is undermining our country and our US Constitution.

    The American people need to Flood Congress, with e-mails and phone calls, letting them know they are no different than the rest of us, when it come to the laws we must all live under. Congress is not the ruling class, here in America.


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    Last edited by Ryman Gun Dog; September 1st, 2013 at 02:57 PM.
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    "Leading by example" is one of the basics of leadership.
    Somehow missed by Congress.
    Long past time to get rid of these fools.

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    Why would they complain? The President has been telling the American Public that The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will “cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year”...

    What do Congressmen and their aids have against saving $2,500 a year?

    Is there something that they know that the President has not been telling the American Public?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o65vMUk5so


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    As a longtime Iowan, I've been proud of much of what Grassley has done during his long career. Solid fiscal conservative. Holds town meetings where the BS level is about as low as it can get from a politician.

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    In an attempt to clarify things in case anyone is interested. The gov't currently pays an estimated 70% of the cost of employee health insurance. The Grassley amendment requires that members of congress and staff obtain their health ins. from one of the new health insurance exchanges. Apparently there is no provision for an exchange to receive contributions from an employer. Because of that, it appears that the law would require congress and staff to pay 100% of the cost of health ins. The 70% exemption cited really isn't an exemption. It continues the 70% current level of employer payment for health ins. that these staff already have. Unless the law is changed they still are required to purchase from a health ins. exchange. This, along with all the other unclear provisions, delays etc., points out what a complex misunderstood mess the whole situation is.
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    Thirdbite,
    Absolutely wrong, it is in addition to the usual Abama legislated coverage, get the facts correct, as usual the liberals will try to spin this with what ever smoke and mirrors they can dream up, Obama ordered the budget office to cover the Congressmen and their Aids after they realized what they would actually have to pay after Obama Care is fully
    inacted. It is a waiver exemption payed for by the Budget office not the original Obama Care legislation. Get your facts correct and stop blowing smoke.

    Larry,
    Grassly (Grassely) did everything he could to stop this Obama care and even placed
    an Amendment in it to make sure if it did get rammmed thru, that Congress would be required to live under the same exact laws, they were subjecting the rest of the country too.
    This latest waiver money from the budget office, set up by Obama, counter acts the Grassley Amendment for Congress, at least money wise, making the public pay for the bulk of Congresses Obama Care. Grassley knew exactly what he was doing, and what his Amendment said.
    Which is why Congress went crazy, when they finally came to the realization, that they were to be treated exactly, like all other people under the legislation, including the death panels and over all cost.
    Many of the Congressmen & their Aids have yet to realize they will also be subject to the death panels, in the Obama Care Legislation. Thank God for Grassly (Grassley).
    This is not over yet, when Congress finally realizes that they & their families are subject to the full legislation including the death panels, things will get real ugly in DC.
    RGD/Dave
    Last edited by Ryman Gun Dog; August 3rd, 2013 at 12:08 AM.
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    You're a Whaco Bird Beans,like Ted.

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    Just Wednesday, POLITICO reported that President Barack Obama told Democratic senators that he was personally involved in finding a solution.
    The problem was rooted in the original text of the Affordable Care Act. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) inserted a provision which said members of Congress and their aides must be covered by plans “created” by the law or “offered through an exchange.” Until now, OPM had not said if the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program could contribute premium payments toward plans on the exchange. If payments stopped, lawmakers and aides would have faced thousands of dollars in additional premium payments each year. Under the old system, the government contributed nearly 75 percent of premium payments.




    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2av0tdURt

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    Every Congress Rep and Senator should vote for a flat $2,000 fee for health insurance. The criteria is that you file your federal income taxes every year, then you are eligible for the plan. All health care plans, Va. Indian Health Care, Tri Care, medicare, medicaid, flat everything needs to charge $2,000 flat fee for that insurance policy. If health care companies can't cover the admin fees for $2,000 for each policy holder who needs health care, then they need to get out of the health care business.

    All citizens need a health care account to pay for office visits on their own once they get their foot in the door the insurance companies have to cover all those folks who need their treatments paid for. The theory on health care is that there should be enough money to cover the people who get sick and need coverage. Government should supply a health care policy to all those who cannot get one from a private company for $2,000.

    The good things about Obama Care are, companies can't deny coverage due to medical history. They also can't cap lifetime coverages and costs at a certain level. Luck is luck and you can't charge money for luck or not having good luck. So if you aren't willing to risk taking on high risk policy holders, go grow a garden and get out of the health care business.

    The National Health is so important, that there really is no real reason to exploit sick people and have some bean counter making decisions on who gets their care covered or not. That sort of thing should be treated as negligent homicide, because it incites terrorism and murder by desperate people, and why should innocents be swept in. Get the greedy idiots who kill by omission.

    If private companies want to maintain the health care coverages they do it effectively for $2,000 per year, per policy or get out of the business and grow a garden, make crafts or something, that someone would want to buy. By being greedy, totally unconcerned with their clients; most health care providers have earned the right to go out of business because they do not really do the job for the reasonable amount of money they the policy owners earn.

    Congress getting so much money as payment for what they really don't do,.....give me a break, they have no right to get 70% of their health plan costs paid for by the tax payers. They need to be put under the same $2,000 plan and pay on their own health policy cost.

    The idea of employers picking up the cost of health care policies is not good. That is what causes so many businesses to go bankrupt. Anything that causes businesses to go belly up should be eliminated.

    A flat 5% tax on beer, booze, pot, tobacco, sugar, corn all needs to go into the health care bill that the government will augment above and beyond the $2,000 policy collection produces.

    Computer programs need to be created to calculate costs per procedures that doctors, hospitals can charge per operation, treatment etc. If that does not put a check and balance on costs, think about government run health services like they do in the military. Not too many complaints from Military Doctors and Nurses.

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    Troop, we've all paid into Medicare, in advance. Seems it'd be only fair, if we're going to collect $2K/year for Medicare, that it doesn't kick in until we've used up what we've already paid them. Tricare is somewhat complicated because it's actually several different plans. The major ones are the version that covers those currently in uniform and the one that covers retirees (Tricare for Life). The latter is basically a Medicare supplement--you don't get it if you opt out of Medicare. You'd need at least two different fees there, because you've got primary coverage vs supplemental. I'd have to rack up a bunch of medical expenses before I'd use up $2,000 worth of Tricare for Life.

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